That means wipe your post clean and the wiper dry after every ride. On most droppers this can be adjusted by using a shock pump to vary the air-spring preload pressure. 3. The Highline uses a fully sealed aluminium cartridge that’s not serviceable, but can be removed easily from the seat clamp end if anything goes awry (spoiler alert: it didn’t). High to low frequency:-Tire pressure adjust-Chain lube, drivetrain clean-Tire replacement-Suspension service-Brake pad replacement-Brake bleed-Pivot/linkage lube-Dropper post bleed What's 2+2? Our adjustable seat post equips air pressure actuation–freely and easily adapting your seat position according to the terrain you meet. Anybody knows if this can be adjusted?? Then what kind of maintenance are you going to need to keep it running like new? I hang my bikes from the front wheel, and drop the post before storage, my theory is that this will allow the oil in the dropper to engage with the stanchion and seals as well as keep it out of harm’s way. Those internal hydraulics of droppers usually don’t require any maintenance. eval(ez_write_tag([[728,90],'bikerumor_com-box-3','ezslot_8',101,'0','0']));In the last two weeks our Suspension Tech series has gone deep into how to pick the best travel dropper for your riding and how to actually be sure the dropper you want will fit your bike. And then following the manufacturer’s instructions to clean & pop out the seals, put new grease on it, and snap it back into place – sometimes replacing the seal itself with easily available parts. (BikeYoke, KS & 9point8 each said this isn’t an issue for their designs.) 4.5 out of 5 star rating. Don’t pull on a hydraulic post while the saddle is dropped, as you risk forcing air into the piston, which can turn your post into an unusable pogo stick. Hi guys, I've got a Brand X Ascend dropper which i've only had 3 rides on. Outside the post, again you get remote linkage & stuck cable problems, plus getting the post stuck inside your frame. We’re doing what we can to reduce our impact on the forests, so you'll notice your dropper posts don't come with a … That means every dropper maker knows that too. Most (but not all) use a precise Internal Floating Piston (IFP) charged with oil & air to drop your post and get it back up again. • How We Make Money Brand-X Ascend Dropper Seatpost (125mm & 150mm) Precisely engineered to bring you fast and smooth operation on the trails, the Ascend dropper post will get you into the optimum riding position in a flash. But neither of those do anything to protect a dropper post. eval(ez_write_tag([[468,60],'bikerumor_com-box-4','ezslot_0',106,'0','0']));As anyone with a dropper knows, they are in the direct line of fire for rear wheel spray. Most cyclists ride in wet conditions, and hopefully everyone washes their bikes occasionally (hopefully not with a pressure washer, though.) occassionally wiped on the seal is always good. We see many bike makers trying to protect the rear shock from wheel spray with integrated frame fenders, and more riders using clip-on saddle-mounted fenders to keep their butts clean. Check out past posts here. Bikerumor.com is the world’s largest cycling tech blog. SRAM Butter, Slick Honey, Wet Seal, Silicon Shine, etc.) Most dropper seatposts use hydraulic or pneumatic pressure to be raised up and down, but the question of mechanical and hydraulic refers to how the remote lever is attached to control the unit. I think my Reverb dropper post is pretty low on my maintenance list. Travel Dropper seat posts are now available in a wide range of drops, from 100 mm right through to a whopping 258 mm. There is no oil bath inside your dropper, if you think so. So I've been running this post for well over a year now and have 1000km on it. Stack height Length from the bottom of the post… When the post is in the dropped position, that air pressure … Should be a valve under there and it’s around 240 psi from memory. And posts generally are well sealed against water, mud, and dirt infiltration. Don’t forget that cable. Storing with the dropper extended is also probably best, as that is when internal pressures are their lowest. Learn how your comment data is processed. Shop the Hot Lap. You’d be better doing this than risk buggering it up and voiding your 2 year warranty. I think the xl is a different design to the earlier one that I’ve got (120mm drop). My KS Lev has been happy this way for over 2 years. Pro performance at privateer prices Kitsuma Air. I suspect my post needs a few more PSI, probably being an idiot, but there’s no schraeder valve under the seat clamp or base of the post.  Just a warning not to unscrew the bottom cap without reading the manual. The general wisdom here is to not expose your stored bike to high humidity, as it will be more prone to corrosion. Email us. And you essentially want to wipe off all excess, so the grease doesn’t attract/collect dirt. This is a bargain post that will give a lot of bang for your buck. Dropper seatposts sit in an exposed position right next to the spinning rear wheel where they are subjected to all the mud, dust, salt, sand & debris your tire can flick up. The liquid is But remember, no degreasers, penetrating oils, or really any aggressive cleaners (no WD-40, for example). * Other than that, droppers are mostly designed to function with their factory internal grease for their full functional life – often quoted as number of cycles or up to even 10 years of regular use. It’s best to store your bike with the dropper post in the extended position. • Comment Policy Now that we are all riding around slinging mud at the back of our droppers and popping the saddle up and down all the time, these tips should be enough to keep those posts telescoping smoothly. • Contact Us We offer branding well beyond the standard banner, providing meaningful interaction and powerful connections to drive awareness and sales for your company. 4. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Moisture & even humidity inside the seattube can lead to corrosion of the post. Privacy Remove the valve cap using a 9mm socket as shown. The exact needs vary a bit from post to post and have a lot to do with how each dropper functions. Then when you put the tip into the liquid and stop squeezing the top, the low pressure inside sucks up the liquid. When you squeeze the rubber top on the dropper you squeeze the air out. … Inflate to 250psi and remove the pump. The Brand-X Ascend XL is a well priced, nicely made and cleanly designed cable-actuated dropper post that works reliably. This is easily accomplished by popping out a rubber seal under the seat clamp to access the Schrader valve. That might have something to do with users not cleaning their posts as often in dry riding. DROPPER POST. ! Screw a shock pump into place until you see the needle register pressure and then tighten a further quarter-turn. Most dropper seatposts use hydraulic or pneumatic pressure to be raised … If you are going to store your bike for months at a time (say the end of your riding season), this is the best time for your annual service. I didn’t think the brand X could have the air adjusted – doesn’t it have a sealed cartridge with no external adjustment? Yeah, internal pressure is increased behind the IFP when it is pushed down, hence it being able to spring up. “Storing with the dropper extended is also probably best”, was this the recommendation from the manufacturers or something you slid in from personal preference. Brand-X Dropper – air pressure too low, returns slowly ... but there’s no schraeder valve under the seat clamp or base of the post. Sure they were gnarly wet rides and i pressure washed a couple times but it seems to have lost air pressure. The MICRO adjustment offers quick and easy seatpositioning, with reliable and robust technology–virtually No Play! New cables and housing can often be a cheap and easy remedy if your dropper actuation starts acting up or feeling stiff. Price as reviewed: £220.00 . Compare prices on the DVO Garnet. Most dropper posts are pneumatic in nature, which means it needs pressurized air to hold the seat post in position. A full hydraulic dropper post uses a sealed hydraulic remote to control the seatpost. The long lower section won't suit small or kinked seat tubes, however, and it's relatively heavy. We cover the shiny new things, with in-depth interviews and detailed stories about how the bicycles and components work, plus reviews to see if they live up to the hype. That often means some water gets trapped inside the frame, and we often forget about it. Classifieds Rules We see a constant influx of ways to set up dropper remotes. Mechanical vs Hydraulic. Price: £270. Got a question you want answered? We can do that too, and let our readers know you support explaining the tech we all ride. Again many stealth routed posts have linkage-operated remotes, and performance will drop over time with corrosion & contamination. Want your brand or product featured? Shop Kitsuma Air. Hence, when you restore it back to its original position, it puts immense strain on the seals and bolts inside. Hope you get it sorted. Short travel, light weight gravel and xc race dropper post. Login/cookie issues? And if you think your riding conditions are especially harsh, you should probably service/grease/replace your seals more often. • Privacy Policy On my Santa 5010 with Rockshox there's a easy adjustment for sped/tightness. Road and gravel bikes can join the fun. Get Bikerumor’s top stories delivered straight to your inbox every week! Again our insider engineers at BikeYoke, KS & 9point8 gave us the full lowdown on the maintenance that a dropper post requires. e*thirteen TRS+ Like the PNW Rainier post, the TRS+ uses a coil system in place of compressed air. That’s what I though too, under a little rubber cover under the saddle. Now for some droppers this might be a 10 or 15 minute job, others you may be looking at an hour or more, especially if you aren’t used to doing it. Next week we’ll help you figure out which is best for you, and if it is time for a update to improve the overall dropper experience. Hi, A brand new M10 Occam, and the seatpost collar is not too tight. We love learning the technology and celebrating innovation at every level -from crowdfunded start ups to major global brands- and sharing it all here with you! Both the OneUp V2 and the PNW Bachelor are also sold as the post only. DVO Garnet DVO claims that the Garnet dropper post is intentionally simple and reliable, with no wheels reinvented. That falls in line with most manufacturers, and typically is something that doesn’t require fully disassembling the dropper, but does usually mean pulling it out of your bike. I still think the dropper is slow on the ascend and also too tight on the drop. Cleanliness and proper lubrication are going to be the buzz words here.eval(ez_write_tag([[250,250],'bikerumor_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_2',102,'0','0'])); For the most part typical maintenance is going to mean cleaning, regular inspection, and lubrication of the upper stanchion and main seal/wiper. Or maybe I am just not getting, what you want to say, Or maybe just that fine dust likes to try to work its way past the seals.eval(ez_write_tag([[336,280],'bikerumor_com-banner-1','ezslot_1',107,'0','0'])); This is where you just need to keep an eye on your dropper and try to monitor its consistent performance. Right out of the box the Aeffect needed to have the air pressure topped up. Redesigned Drop bar compatible lever. I had the same issue with mine on the first ride. Contact us to connect with them. Andy McCandlish / Immediate Media. The latest X-Fusion Manic is the latest in a long line of X-Fusion droppers and it’s available in 125mm and 150mm drop for only £220. In fact it is the higher pressure outside the dropper, in the liquid, that pushes the liquid up into the dropper. Can you take a pic under the seat? It is better to not leave the dropper post down. >>> The best mountain bike dropper posts. Initial performance of the post is faultless. The new one goes up like a rocket! Purchase price: $167.99 for the Ascend dropper post and $74.99 Ascend lever kit I’ve tested, trialed, reviewed and purchased a lot of dropper posts and am a self confessed addict; I love what dropper post’s do for mountain biking. Next up is going to be how we control those dropper seatposts. For testing, we bought each brand's remote to accompany its dropper post. Returned it to CRC and they replaced it under warranty- no issues. A little suspension grease (ie. The Tranz-X post is sold by itself, but Tranz-X also sells three affordable remotes. All have seals & bushings that need to be kept clean to slide smoothly. The Ultimate First Road Bike? They aren’t a complicated addition to a bike and can be maintained quite easily. Most (but again, not all) also use some form of cable actuated remote. Shims can be used to increase the seat-post diameter of a dropper post to fit into a larger diameter frame size, but you cannot fit a larger dropper post into a narrower diameter frame. • Submit News Also if you are going to store a bike by hanging it from the saddle, you need to extend your post before doing so. Inside the dropper that means things like corroded guide pins, guides, and sticky travel. “this will allow the oil in the dropper to engage with the stanchion and seals as well as keep it out of harm’s way” Sure keeping foreign material off the stanchion is a good practice, but regularly cleaning the slider is just as, if not more important. When the post is in the dropped position, the air pressure is 3 times higher. Contact Us I set the air pressure to 230 psi. This time in the shed we install the "Brand X" Ascend dropper post. All have seals & bushings that need to be kept clean to slide smoothly. Inflate to 250psi. Now this is a budget dropper post distributed by Hotlines but primarily sold by the mighty CRC (Chain Reaction Cycles).This dropper post falls firmly into the budget end of the spectrum, with other droppers with similar specs easily retailing at twice the price of the Ascend, which has a respectable RRP of £139.99. Both valid concerns to keep in mind. Purchase price: $167.99 for the Ascend dropper post and $74.99 Ascend lever kit. Now, however, dropper posts have a remote lever attached to the handlebars that is connected to the post through a cable or hose. The topic ‘Brand-X Dropper – air pressure too low, returns slowly’ is closed to new replies. Regular service and replacement parts are required for high performing bikes. In all cases, now we are talking about active suspension components that need to move up and down consistently. Manufacturer: X-Fusion. Beyond that for example, 9point8 says to open up and regrease their main seals once a year, KS every six months. BikeYoke reminds us that one thing other suspension components don’t have to deal with as much is water & contamination inside the bike frame. We purchased and tested the Tranz-X 1x remote to see how it performs alongside the Kitsuma Air post. Stay tuned for a new post each week that explores one small suspension tech, tuning or product topic. Link Removal >>> RockShox launches 170mm Reverb dropper post You human? Most (but not all) use a precise Internal Floating Piston (IFP) charged with oil & air to drop your post and get it back up again. CLICK HERE for more info. The Brand X Ascend 150mm Dropper post is an internally routed post that is a bargain buy and one that works well as long as you look after it. Premier Club You should treat your dropper like a shock body or fork sliders. Oh that’s a shame. @DougB: What exactly do you mean? But when asked about things like putting boots on the post itself, KS went further saying it is better to avoid something that can trap water & dirt on the post. Newsletter Settings, Viewing 11 posts - 1 through 11 (of 11 total), Brand-X Dropper – air pressure too low, returns slowly, Premier Partners for Singletrack issues & exclusive subscriber perks, Metcheck MTB Weather Forecasts At A Glance, Singletrack Wisecracker Headset Spacer Bottle Opener, 2021 Team News: Remy Métailler Joins Propain, All The Bikes, Many Distractions – Bike Video Round Up, Slicy Products Smooth Tyre Inserts, Sealant and Valves – Reviewed, This topic has 10 replies, 7 voices, and was last updated. Interestingly enough, almost every engineer we talked to said dry & dusty conditions are just as troublesome as heavy mud (if not more so.) Thanks Running through all of the myriad things that could be tried -bleeding the hydraulic Reverb lever, removing the post to adjust cable tension, checking air pressure on models that allow it, etc.- it finally dawned on us that maybe, just maybe, we’d overtightened the collar. Bikerumor.com reaches close to one million passionate cyclists per month. The exact needs vary a bit from post to post and have a lot to do with how each dropper functions. Oil inside the dropper does not contact your stanchion any more dropped as it does, when it is extended. Joe – I’ve just read the same, seems it is basically the same as this seatpost, and the cartridge is sealed.  Ah well, one less job to do today…, https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1081/9866/files/Bachelor_Service_Manual.pdf?633143640978840437. Clean all of the parts of the clamp, including the bolts and the top of the post. So should we find a better solution?eval(ez_write_tag([[336,280],'bikerumor_com-leader-1','ezslot_3',110,'0','0'])); It seems dropper makers aren’t really too worried about it. I’ve had to pump it up a couple of times when I first got it but been good since. Boom. Much like with a fork or even your drivetrain, use your best judgement. Crank Brothers is so confident about the new Highline’s performance that it’s offering a three-year guarantee. Then you know the bike is put away with the seal cleaned, dried, and properly lubed. KS Lev Ci 175mm dropper seat post review PRO Koryak 170 dropper And even if they do ultimately fail (a real dropper problem still, unfortunately) it probably is a case of replacing internals rather than rebuilding them. It has a long overall length though so might not fit in all bikes. Some IFP systems are still susceptible to the internal formation of air bubbles (cavitation) if you store your bike upside down, like being hung from the wheels. I’ve recently been looking at the Brand-X Ascend Dropper. The fun never ends. This is time to grab a frosty beverage, head to your post manufacturer’s youtube channel, and watch the full service video before you start taking things apart. Older dropper post models were adjustable via a lever located at the post itself. This means you'll be primed for the upcoming terrain so you can attack a climb or descent without having to stop to change your saddle position. Most also have internals open to varying degrees from the bottom to allow for pressure relief, making them more vulnerable. Crankbrothers Highline 7. When replacing the giant post, you'll need to factor in a new lever unless you buy one with the cable end at the post. The XL ascend that I bought a couple of weeks ago has a valve underneath a rubber bung which is hidden under the seat clamp. Forum Rules • About Us, be sure the dropper you want will fit your bike, treat your dropper like a shock body or fork sliders, Jones packs a lighter handlebar bag with new H-Bar Pack, FSA adds more, wider modular crank spindles, plus Gradient & 2x Powerbox options. It's simple to fit and has a good remote lever, while the seat clamp is similarly no-nonsense. So now we can assume everyone has a dropper in their bike, right?. Posted: Aug 13, 2018 at 14:34 Quote: if the seatpost clamp isnt too tight then it could be the air pressure too low - not sure if this post has an air chamber though but i know some do X-Fusion Manic dropper post review. And riders who can see the condition of the post, are more likely to keep it properly clean and lubricated. • Ask A Stupid Question Anyone got a link to the manual, or simple instructions on what the PSI should be and where the air goes in! Trees are rad and their roots help keep the trails tacky. All dropper posts use a spring to extend the seat upwards. There’s a cap with 3mm socket under the seat, but doesnt look like a valve.  I’m sure I found a link to a manual at some point, but cant find it now. In some posts, this air spring is small and held at relatively high pressure (around 200 – 250 psi). On our Sedona ride, both of us experienced poor performance. Up to 200mm of travel, lightweight alloy construction and adjustable air. Our passion is the products, technology and people that make them. Return speed is adjustable by adding or releasing air pressure at the head of the post. 3 While that is a good way to kill a bottom bracket, dropper posts also suffer. I’ve tested, trialed, reviewed and purchased a lot of dropper posts and am a self confessed addict; I love what dropper post’s do for mountain biking. About active suspension components that need to be kept clean to slide smoothly dropper. 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